36 - Symptoms of Codependency (Part 2)

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Structure of Symptoms of Codependency

  • Name the symptom

  • Identify the fear that it’s grounded in

  • Identify the toxic shame that it is birthed in

  • Discuss its impaired expression in our lives

  • Discuss what it was meant to be

Codependency recovery and codependency illness is not an either/or; it’s both/and. 

Just like addiction, codependency is an attempt to have a full life, without having to be truly human and having to deal with needs, embarrassment and vulnerability. It is both/and as an impaired way of living and an attempt to find full life.

Recovery is developing a tolerance for vulnerability. 

Vulnerability is the key to identifying myself as human, having feelings and being in need; and identifying others who are capable of feeling and being in need.

Codependency is the loss of self, and all that comes with self, given over to significant others because they are uncomfortable with someone being human in their presence. So, with our need to belong and matter, we will sacrifice how God made us to belong and matter to those who are actually running from themselves.

Sadly, children don’t know that these caregivers are running from themselves because children look at their caregivers knowing that they are big and the child is little. They think, “You must be right because you’re big; therefore, I must be wrong.”

The caregiver’s toxic shame and defenses, and their protection from their own internal world become a rejection to belonging and mattering for the child.

The origin of how we’re created is found in this equation:

intuition + suspicion + questions = the growing ability to discern 

  • where I am

  • who I’m with

  • what I need to do

This means I am listening to my internal world.

Intuition + suspicion + questions = discernment.

Intuition + suspicion + defensiveness = judgmentalism. Judging my environment around me all the time based upon making sure that I do not end up looking little, stupid, or weak. This is the fear and toxic shame of vulnerability.

So, your whole life revolves around trying to fit in based upon your performance again, rather than being how you are made. This requires that you ask a lot of questions.

Asking questions is a solution that helps separate us from judgment and return us to discernment.

3. Name the symptom 

Investment of self-worth in ability to control one’s self and others

Identify the fear that it’s grounded in 

  • Fear of exposure as being in need; vulnerable; you don’t have all the answers

  • You don’t have control

  • You don’t know how to do something

  • You don’t have the right answer

You fight hard to never be in that place of vulnerability again. 

Identify the toxic shame that it is birthed in 

unless you can control, you will be seen as defective and “be in trouble.”

Discuss its impaired expression in our lives (External locus of control)

  • You spend your time being hypervigilant, watching other’s reactions to see how you are “supposed” to behave

  • You live reactively

  • You spend time reading others’ minds

Discuss what it was meant to be (Internal locus of control) 

Self-trust that leads to asking questions or asking for help as your needs arise.

I want to live life fully more than I want to just be safe.

4. Name the symptom 

Meeting others’ needs to the apparent exclusion of one’s own needs; always seeking approval and affirmation

Identify the fear that it’s grounded in 

Fear of others’ displeasure

Identify the toxic shame that it is birthed in 

Unless others are pleased, I will be seen as unacceptable and not wanted.

Discuss its impaired expression in our lives (External locus of control) 

  • Denial of my own internal awareness (feelings, needs, desire, longings, and hope)

  • Leads to martyr syndrome (Unless I am giving to others, my needs will not be met)

Discuss what it was meant to be (Internal locus of control) 

Knowing and taking care of my own needs by asking God and others to help me, so I can care about others from a “full cup”

The Boy & the Ogre: Finding Freedom from Codependency by Chip Dodd

5. Name the symptom 

Anxiety and boundary distortions around intimacy 

Identify the fear that it’s grounded in 

The fear of “response ability” (listening to and speaking feelings, needs, desire, longings, and hope) or fear of being in trouble because I am having feelings


Identify the toxic shame that it is birthed in 

If my experience is different from your experience, something is wrong with me.

Discuss its impaired expression in our lives (External locus of control)

If you feel a certain way, I cannot feel another way.

Discuss what it was meant to be (Internal locus of control) 

I can feel how I feel, and you can feel something different.

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